Episode 206: Communicating effectively with the people you work with and the turning your side project into a business with Sarah Thornton of The Finders Keepers
If you can't find something, start it. It doesn't need to be perfect. In today's episode, Fiona talks to Sarah Thornton of The Finders Keepers. Sarah talks about her business, the challenges have they come up against, tips to business owners, and so much more! Tune in.
Topics discussed in this episode:
Introduction
On Sarah's business - The Finders Keepers
How the business got through COVID
On bringing a friend as a business partner
Before social media and how has social media helped the business
Mentors and resources that has helped Sarah
On staying organized
How to connect with Sarah and the Finders keepers
Conclusion
Get in touch with My Daily Business Coach
Resources and Recommendations mentioned in this episode:
Sarah Thornton
Brooke Johnson
Pru Chapman
There are some horror stories out there. So I think it really comes down to personality compatibility in a big way. First of all, and then also the skill sets because if you are very entrepreneurial and then you've got another person who's just as gusto as you. There can be clashes if you don't actually have clear boundaries on what your strengths are.
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So today I am talking to Sarah Thornton, who is co-founder alongside Brooke Johnson of The Finders Keepers. Now, if you're an Australian and you're in a creative space, you may well have heard of, or have even had a stall at one of The Finders Keepers markets. It was started in 2008 by Sarah and Brooke and really has grown from a sort of this market that they wanted to create because they couldn't find something that was like what they wanted to have into this huge platform that actually has events throughout the east coast of Australia, as well as an online marketplace. It has as of this year, I think the Creative Business Summit and they have an online shop and just their real champions of the creative community in Australia. So a while ago, I think it's a few months ago now Sarah contacted us and sort of pitched to me on the podcast and knowing their business and knowing that I have a number of clients who've actually had stalls there.
And so I just thought, let's hear from them and hear about how did they start? What challenges have they come up against, especially being a predominantly physical event, based business, going through the pandemic. And actually, when we recorded this, they had just postponed their Creative Business Summit because of the floods that were happening in Northeast Australia. And so the Creative Business Summit is actually happening in June. If you're listening to this in real-time, you can check that out and we'll have the links in the show notes. But I wanted to chat to Sarah and sort of asking about how did this all happen? How do you go with staff, all sorts of things? So if you have gone to The Finders Keepers or you have had a store there, or you have interacted with them in some way, I mean, maybe you're one of the many followers on social media. I know that today will be really interesting for you as it was for me. So this is my interview with Sarah Thornton, co-founder of The Finders Keepers.
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How are you?
Hi, I'm well, thank you.
I'm excited to be chatting to you today and I'd love to sort of start off with like right in there from the start. How do you feel like life is going for you right now on a scale of one to 10?
I'm gonna say an optimistic eight. I've been a little bumpy this year, but we are trying to be optimistic and look to the future and we've got a big year ahead of us.
No, a good one for the optimistic eight. I like that answer. And so I have mentioned your business just now, and of course, I'm sure that so many people listening know about it have visited maybe even have taken part in it. I've worked with a number of clients who know it very well and have been part of your incredible business, but I'd love you to tell us a bit more about it. So what does it do and how and why, and when did you start it?
So we've been around for 14 years now. So quite an established business we've run. I just counted before we've run 67 events across Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane. And earlier Brooke, my business partner and I were designers. So we come from a design background ourselves and the inspiration was really just to put on something fun that we wanted to go to at the time, Brooke had just started a jewelry label and was just kind of struggling to find places, to show her work and be appreciated by like-minded audience.
And really back then in 2008, there weren't really any big design markets or events that are similar to what we do now, but you probably know there are quite a few these days. It's not a new concept, but back then, it definitely was something that we thought didn't exist and we wanted to give it a go and she'd done a lot of like local markets that just didn't really feel like the right kind of crowd. And we wanted to do something fun with some friends, and it was really casual.
We started really small and didn't really think much of it and just thought, we'll put it on this market. And maybe people will come. Maybe they won't and we'll have music and wine and all the fun things. And it definitely was the biggest success that we could have ever imagined. In those early days, it was something that people were really craving and excited to go to. And we found a niche really earlier on. So that's kinda a little bit about our back story. And then from there really, it was only a side hustle, something that we just did, in our spare time with limited resources and money.
And then we were like, people really like this, let's kind of make it a bit more of a business and then went part-time and then eventually it just kept getting bigger and bigger and full-time job. And we now have eight staff as well. So it's definitely turned into something bigger than what we anticipated and just found a community in that as well. A lot of the designers grew up with us and established their business from very early days and have now gone on to do amazing things. So it felt like we could never really let it go because there was a need for it. And we just wanted to keep supporting our community.
I love the name. So how did you come up with the name and is it just, well, that's what people are trying to find and keep things like how, where did you come up with the name? The Finders Keepers.
It's a funny one. I think we were trying to think of something cute and kitschy and nostalgic back then. Such a long time ago and it just stuck for some reason. I don't know. I can't even remember how we came up with it, but I think it was just a conversation that we're thinking about, what's an old saying or something that has a bit of fun to it, and then we just went with it and it kept it's what it is now. And we always kind of play on those words as well. Like find love, keep, and that kind of stuff. And it's kind of evolved into what it is.
That's a congratulation on bringing it in 14 years. That's huge. And I know that seems like people are like, that's a long time. It was way before we all got into social media. So just feels very old, like a life without social media. And can I ask, are you both staying in design as well? Like when you said this was a side hustle until it certainly got to a point and now you've got eight staff and it's a full-time thing. Did Brooke give up the jewelry line entirely? Like how did you make that shift from, this is a side thing this is actually a full-blown business.
We did hold onto it for a while. I think we're both just naturally creative and we kind of joke that we'll sometimes get back to that in our spare time. Right. But we both became mothers and the family life really kind of took over and managing a business and our family. So some things kind of went to the side a little bit, but we always talk about being creative and doing things again. But it’s just kind of evolved that way and we wanted to really dedicate our time to it.
I love that. And then, we are in a pandemic, we're still in a pandemic and I know lots of my clients who have had events or even some people that had booked in with The Finders Keepers. It's a very challenging time that you're in. And it's a very challenging time that you've just gone through as well. And so many businesses like yours, where it's based on physical events. Can you talk us through how you've pulled through? Is it still a huge like nightmare and what's it been like for businesses like yours that really rely on face-to-face things happening? Like, did you need to change things? Did you think at some point, this is it, it's just finished. Like how did you get through that?
I definitely had those thoughts. I think for us, we were probably one of the hardest industries in general being events, as well as music and entertainment. It was pretty hard because we didn't have any other way of making revenue. So it was pretty scary. And there were definitely times when we were mentally preparing for the fact that we might not make it through. So definitely, that was a hard time. At the start of 2020, I think everybody was going through it. And it was a lot of unknowns. I feel like 2021 was just as hard, to be honest, but we did have a bit of more of a, I guess, track record of how to survive during really hard times and having experienced it. Everybody knew how to get down to like ground zero and just go, okay, what do we need to do to survive and get through this period.
So definitely I'm pretty proud that we're still standing today. I just didn't think that just happened, we did rely on job keeper as a lot of small businesses did. And we are really lucky that we had that and we were able to survive and just minimize our workload and everything immediately in terms of overhead expenses, just to survive that period. And I got really good at cash flow projections, which is now a skill that I have for any scenario. And I think that really got us through to just be able to know what we had to do to survive, and what's the bare minimum room to survive on. But luckily our community is amazing and we always put them first and I think the strength of them getting us through it and supporting us and not pulling out and asking for refunds straight away, or just being able to support us in other areas of the business is something that we've just really seen as the silver lining during this period. And knowing that they're there to support us to get through the other end has been one of the best things about it. And we were lucky as well because we started to operate online so we could shift to that quite quickly. But we definitely have learned so much during the last two years. And I think a lot of small businesses probably can relate to that one.
Yes. It's been a steep learning curve.
Yes.
And so you touched on the fact that you had moved online and you were able to sort of operate some part of it online. I was looking at your site before this and you've got an online shop and I was wondering, did that start before the pandemic, did it start just like at the start of 2020, was that always around, and kind of how have you created that in order to give people a similar experience? I know it can't be the same when they're in person, but what have you had to do to make that site, the shop online, kind of function in a similar way?
We're really lucky. Because we built the online marketplace in 2019 and we had no idea what was coming, obviously.
Good Timing.
The plan had really been to build that out so that the designers could have a chance to connect with people during the events and after, and also reach a broader audience. And so the timing was just was that we really were gonna in 2020, so it was kind a forced launched and into that space, a quick pivot into that space, there's definitely been some challenges. One of the biggest things was that we didn't have a huge advertising marketing budget or a lot of money to spend on keep developing it and things like that. But we were really lucky that we had the, I guess all the backend stuff ready to go and the marketplace was functional and we were able to pivot there really quickly. And I think it definitely is a different experience online. There's just something really special about connecting in person. And we always wanted to have it as I guess, a complimentary place alongside our events to not replace that real-life contact, but just to give people opportunities to connect online. So it's definitely been good for that and we're hoping to keep building it and getting more sellers to have that constant cash flow as well.
We will of course link to that in the show notes as well. And another thing I wanted to ask and you've talked about the journey to start this business and that you were in partnership and you're still in partnership with Brooke Johnston, on this whole business. And I always find it interesting to ask kind of how has it been working in a partnership and did you have to like when you started this and because it was a side thing for so long, was it just like, let's just do this and you do that part and I'll do this part and we can kind of just figure it out or was it a sit-down and like, you are really good at this. You should do that part of the business and I'm good at this. And especially when you started bringing on staff as well, I work with lots of people who've gone into business with a friend or their partner or a cousin or a sister or whatever. And I think there's always a point at which we need to talk about it.
I'm just sort of wondering like how, how did that start? And is there any advice that you'd give to who are listening, who maybe have just got into business with somebody and you are 14 years in or similarly, maybe they've got their own business and they're thinking about bringing like a friend or a partner on board as a partnership?
It's such a good question. And it's funny, I've been asked this before and I've just said, I don't wanna give advice on it. Just because some partnerships just don't work and there are some horror stories out there. So I think it really comes down to personality compatibility in a big way, first of all. And then also the skill sets because if you are very entrepreneurial and then you've got another person who's just as gusto as you, there can be clashes if you don't actually have clear boundaries on what your strengths are.
I think Brooke and I like it, we didn't really sit down from the start. As I said earlier, it was really organic. Like we just started doing it on the side and we hadn't really sat down and done a business plan or really ever thought about where we wanted to go in the future. And that didn't really happen until later on. But the reason we work so well is I'm I guess more of the digital technical side of things and she is way more hands-on than I am. And we found this really beautiful flow of skill sets that always works. So in terms of what she does at the events, it's all production, it's all making the events, come to life and look beautiful and feel like an experience that people are drawn to. And she's always had a real design eye for those things.
And we've always found like, we creatively have a really strong bond, but then when it comes to systems and technical stuff and how to build out a project timeline, that's my strength. And I really have a whole different skill to her, but we work so well together. And I think that there's also that the personalities that work together, like we don't argue or fight, we've got a really good relationship and a one that respects each other. So she doesn't agree with something or has another idea. Then we really just sit down and go, okay, well what's the best solution. It just works. And I think it is pretty rare. And I feel like we are lucky that we've got that relationship and it's a testament that we've got so far because some partnerships just don't work and people know when it's time to cut it off. So I'm really kind of careful with what advice I give. Cause I don't wanna be the person to say yeah, go and do it. And then it's a disaster.
You're incredibly lucky. Cause like 14 years, I think I looked it up once the average marriage in Australia is 12.1 years. So you have outlasted the average marriage in Australia.
That's so true. That's funny.
A business can bring in a whole lot of extra stuff as well. And I love that you talked about personalities. I often, whenever there's a partnership, they absolutely have to do it. I get partners to do their 16personality.com test. And just sort of not to be like, this is your personality and it's concrete. But just to start seeing, like I just had a couple the other day that did it and they were like, oh my gosh. And I was like, wow, you are actually the opposites on every single part of the test. And it was just really interesting. They'd never done anything like that. And it was like, well of course you're gonna keep coming up against these clashes because you're coming at it from two very different ways of looking at the world.
That's so true. I think it's really important to be for you to be aware of your personality traits. And we've done a similar one too. We've done that, that one, but the disk profile was great for our team to do because we realized we were on opposite spectrums, but could really respect and understand how different people work and what they need to really do their best work, which is something that we like to think about. Like how can you do your best work if you are that personality? And that's different from somebody else completely.
And even just like, we have all have stories around money or you have stories around, I don't know, ego or putting ourselves out there like everyone has their own things. And then they bring that into a business partnership. And sometimes those things are never spoken about until it becomes really evident that there's a difference in opinion.
Sort of thing. I love that. And obviously, you're very concentrated on creating this amazing culture and this amazing team as well. Like even the fact that you've done dis profiling is huge. A lot of people don't, they just sort of keep going and we're not gonna work out what's different or how we can best help our staff.
Or just trying to funnel them into a box that doesn't work for everybody either.
Exactly. And I think like another thing that seems evident from your business and the brand is that social media has been a huge part of your business. I think you've got 230,000 minimum maybe.
Yeah. Around there.
So a quarter of a million-plus people following you, how has social media kind of like, how has it contributed to the business because you started this well before social media I think we all forget that Instagram's only been around, I think it's 10 years this year and it's late 2012. I think that it started. Facebook started in 2007, but people weren't really using it. And even Instagram, I remember when that came out, I was in London. I mean, you dare, everyone had that Kodak film filter.
I was gonna say it was really personal back.
It was very Personal.
It wasn't business-driven at all.
And now it's hugely business-driven. And so I'm wondering like, firstly, how did you get the word out about the business before social media, and then how has social media helped you? Because you've obviously got this huge audience on social media.
It's been interesting because we're preface on Facebook and Instagram days. We're actually on MySpace. If you remember that.
I'm totally on MySpace. I've met so many great people on MySpace. I loved MySpace.It was all about like, what track do you want on MySpace as well?
It's a lot more creative because you had colorful pages and pictures and the music that you had playing. I was organic in the early days and we did a lot of word-of-mouth marketing and like physically visiting people and giving them a flyer in their hand and doing old poster runs and it was just a really organic kind of marketing. And I think we built our blog in the early days. And then we started with email marketing kind of before anyone was really knowing what they were doing with that. So I think it was definitely like really organic and building that list of people and followers over time. And then when social media did take off, we did change how we communicated to our audience but made sure that we're always building our email list, which I think is one of the best marketing tips you can have.
But I think naturally, as you can see on Instagram, it's a visual overload of so many small businesses doing amazing things and real content and stuff that you could access quite easily. We never really had that before. Except if you are trying to draw MySpace and find these people out there. So there was a really beautiful synergy for us to connect with our audience quickly as well. And having that platform has been amazing. I think there are definitely challenges now. Like everybody talks about algorithms and all that kind of boring stuff, but we just always try and keep that organic advertising marketing stuff as well.
And I know you've just mentioned the algorithms, but like do you like using social media? Has that been something that someone in your team now looks after? I know like I've got a lot of clients that have big numbers on social media and sometimes they love it and sometimes they're like, you know what? I'd love to just get rid of it altogether. But I can't cause it's a huge part of the business. Now, do you enjoy social media? Like is that somewhere you look for inspiration yourselves as business owners, but just people as well?
It's definitely become a beast over time. I can definitely relate to that love, hate relationship. I would say it's become a pretty big tool for us in our business. And we do have an amazing social and content manager on board. So takes the pressure off us creating content. But also we're lucky because we are sharing beautiful design content all the time and we have small businesses to share and talk about. So it's not as hard, I think, quite natural to talk about other people. But if it was all me, I probably would hate it. Like hats off to the people that just talk about themselves all the time or the content is all driven by them because it's draining and it's a lot of work. And I know some people don't feel natural doing that as well. I can probably take it or leave it. I don't really love social media. I love in-person connections and probably a bit old school like that, but it's definitely been a helpful tool when we try and be smart about it, but without it running our business and putting all eggs in one basket we're always trying to think of ways that we can utilize it as a tool, but not let it drive what we do.
And I love that you mentioned before emails. I have a Sunday email that goes out every week and I always say to people, they're like it isn't emailed dead and I'm like, no, it is not.
It's our best engagement.
Is it, so you look at the numbers, you look at how much return on investment and purchases and everything. It's just, I just like, I often talk to people and they've got thousands of people on their email list and they're not talking to them and I'm like, oh my God. And then people spend so much time on social media with this hope that maybe someone will see it and they've got this pool of people that just want to hear from you. I love that. You mentioned that. And another thing that you guys are working on that is coming up soon if you're listening to this in real-time is the business summit. So can you talk us through that because I'm assuming that people are gonna hear some really great business advice? I'm really bummed that I won't be able to go, but tell us, like how did that come up? And what's the objective of that?
That's a whole new area that we haven't mentioned yet, but we haven't ever done a business summit, so we're very excited. It's been actually an idea of mine for years and I think we were gonna launch it in 2020. So that was definitely not gonna happen. But it's been on the back burner for a while and I think it's just been something that we recognize our community needs. There's lots of different, small business support out there, but something more specific for creatives. And I guess something that I wanted selfishly, it's the same reason why we started the markets. It's like the reason why I wanna do it, is because I can't find anything out there that matches that kind of content that I want. And just the, I reckon just the opportunity to get amazing people in the same room and talking there's nothing like those connections you make and the feelings that you have when you walk away from those conferences or connections, business networking things. There’s definitely been some pivotal points. I think for me being able to attend things like that and what you walk away with is a lot more than you can just get from a book sometimes.
And even like other people's questions, the questions that come from the audience, sometimes there's so much gold in that. Not necessarily even just the conference itself, but definitely people are feeling how you're feeling. It's like validate.
We've got a mix of the keynotes and also panels. And I think that is sometimes where you find the best gold in those conversations that are quite natural.
I love that. And so what else, like you've mentioned that you've had some pivotal points in your business from things like conferences and seminars, but what else has been really important for you in your learning? Like, have you had mentors or mentors or books, or I don’t know, a documentary that's like changed your mind that you'd suggest to other people or that just was a really interesting one for you when you are building your business?
I did have a business coach. He's still a great friend of mine, Pru Chapman from the Owners Collective. She also lives locally up here. And we started our own group of small business female owners. And that has been amazing because we just all lean on each other for support and inspiration. And I think that's just something that's been super helpful to have those connections and be able to feel like people understand where you're at and learn a lot from, I definitely listen to a lot of podcasts including this one. It's something that I binge when I'm driving or actually when I'm cleaning, which I find really great, cuz you are doing something methodical. First time taking stuff in. I also read a lot of books. I like a lot of self-development, personal development stuff as well, and small business and I'm always interested in that kind of space, learning about yourself and growing as a person as well as an entrepreneur.
I love those as well. Like if anyone looked at the books that I'm buying online would just be like, business. Self-Help, business. So, the occasional like Liane Moriarty or some easy read sort of thing as well, but you are really busy. Like you mentioned before that you are a parent and you have these events and there's been a stop, start. And now you're adding this other thing to them, the business summit, plus you've got an online store. I'm just wondering how you stay organized and on top of things because you would have like thousands of vendors that have had stalls at Finders Keepers and have set up plus all the other things that you do around that. Are you super organized as a person? Do you have any apps? Are there kinds of platforms that you plug everything into that help?
I'm always interested in this question with other people but never quest for organization. I'm very lucky cuz we have a good team and I am quite methodical with the organization. So for me, like a really good timeline and knowing what's coming up and we use Asana, for our project management, which is an online tool business-wise, we've always got a really good kind of plan coming on into events. And then personally I use some pretty old school methods, which is the weekly paper pad and chunk out my tasks into three things that I need to get done for the day. And I think that's how I keep myself kind of sane and organized. Like I usually try and look at it at a monthly or a project view and then break it down into what needs to get done this week. What is absolutely urgent today and what do I need to get done to support my team for them to get their tasks done as well? So it's kind of a mix of all online and a little bit of the old paper and pad method. And I use a productivity funnel, which is just kind of chunking your tasks into what's coming up, what needs doing what needs watching. And what's done just kind of like probably heard about in lots of business groups and books and stuff.
Oh no. I love that. And I'm all for the old school, like pen and paper. I use that as well. Like you can have all the apps in the world, but there's something about an old-school pen and paper as well. And so what are you most proud of from your journey in business? 14 years? That's huge. You're in a teenager kind of area now. What are you most proud of gonna get four more years and it's a full-on out.
I know how funny, I guess I'm proud of all the small businesses that we've helped over the years. I'm like a proud parent watching the little ducklings grow and where they go from here is always amazing. It's nice to be part of that and know that we've had some kind of impact on them as a small business, I guess, from a personal level I'm proud of like surviving the pandemic. Because it was really probably the hardest thing that we've ever been through most personally and as a business and knowing that I could keep it going and keep the team employed and knowing that we're able to have a full calendar of events this year is pretty exciting. I'm proud of us for getting this far, even though it's been a bumpy journey, we wanna keep doing what we love.
You would've helped so many and you're still helping so many businesses and it's just incredible what you've built. So congratulations on that. And so what is next? You've got the business summit. What else is happening and where is the best place for people to connect with you?
So our website is thefinderskeepers.com. You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, Pinterest, and all the fun places. What's next for us is obviously the summit, which is on June 2nd in Brisbane. We'll also have it online. So if you can't make it in person, you can watch it from the fun of your own couch. And we've got our full calendar events this year, which is amazing to see again. So we'll be back in Brisbane, Sydney, and Melbourne and all our event dates are on our website. So we hope to see you there.
Amazing. And we'll link to all of that in the show notes as well, but thank you so much for taking the time to come on and chat with us and for sharing so many tips and ideas.
Thank you so much for having me.
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What an interesting story I love, how this all just started from an idea and now it's grown to literally help thousands of small business owners get their idea out there, get out to the public, learn from their audience, connect with people, ask questions have people ask questions of them that, they can become real parts of their marketing and their business story. Just so interesting. And thanks again, Sarah, for kind of pitching yourself to come on here, and if anyone's listening and wants to pitch themselves to be on the podcast, please do we get a lot of pitches I should say, but if it is the right fit, we will definitely book you in. So you can just email us at hello@mydailybusinesscoach.com. But, I'd love to know what you most took away from my conversation with Sarah Thornton of The Finders Keepers.
And so for me, there were so many things that I took away, but two that I kind of wanna highlight is one. And I sort of touched on this just before the idea that if you can't find something, start it, and it doesn't need to be this huge business to start with. It doesn't need to be, where The Finders Keepers are now. When they started, as Sarah said, it was a side project, we are gonna look at how could we do this and how could we kind of just do it in a way that we can actually do it and have friends and family help or just get it out small. It doesn't always need to be this big thing. And I think so often we can sit in a kind of procrastination station because we think that it needs to be perfect from the get-go, Sarah and Brooke have been running this now for well over a decade and they are learning and, oh my gosh, they're like fully into teenage years now.
I think it's 14 years. And so they're learning every step and every time they learn something and experiment and try something new and different, they're stronger for it and better for it. So I love that idea. Just start, it doesn't need to be perfect, just start. And the second thing that I loved was personality traits and personality types. And I love that Sarah brought this up and sort of talked about what they do as a team because it is so important for people to work well together. And especially in her type of business where people are working under a stressful environment, any kind of event can be very stressful if you've ever worked in events or PR or marketing you all know that it may look all beautiful and glamorous at the end, but man, it's a hard slog to get there.
So to know how do I best communicate with the people that I work with? How do they best like to be managed? What do they want from their life? What are they looking for? Even as little as some people prefer to be publicly acknowledged for good jobs. Some people just prefer money. Everyone has a different way and there's no right or wrong. It's just the awareness of knowing how can we best work as a team. So I love that she brought that up. It's so important. So I would love to know what you most took away from this. You can email us at hello@mydailybusinesscoach.com or you can send us a DM at @mydailybusinesscoach. And of course, I'm sure Sarah would love to hear from you as well. So if you want to check out everything that they're doing, you can find that at thefinderskeepers.com, if you wanna connect with them on Instagram, you can find that just @finders_keepers and you'll find them over there along with so much inspiration.
You could literally just go through their Instagram and find 10,000 new brands that you wanna be besties with because it's just a beautiful selection of color and collaboration and creativity. And it's wonderful. So definitely check them out @finders_keepers. And if you're interested in the business summit and particularly if you are in Queensland and you're able to get there in person it's nice to go to in-person events. Again, you can find everything at thefinderskeepers.com/summit. And of course, we'll link all of that in the show notes, which you'll find at mydailybusinesscoach.com/podcast/206. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for Sarah for sharing all your wisdom. And I look forward to seeing you all in the next episode. Take care. Bye.
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